The GreenVille Project has a revolutionary idea about the way we construct and relate to retail environments: building spaces that are responsive to the needs of their community and that use green building practices at every step of the project. With these values at their center they are taking the development industry into their own hands and are effectively hoping to put it back into ours. According to thegreenvilleproject.com, the model it proposes will save its tenants at least 30% in energy consumption costs through various optimizations (e.g., well insulated and renewable energy contribution) compared to traditional retail properties.
Bishop and Knight Consulting had the pleasure of working with The GreenVille Project early on during the development of both their Business and Strategic plans, later in the process we also worked with GVP in creating a branding package. Jae Larsen, CEO of The GreenVille Project, was generous enough to speak with us.
Jae had been working in construction for many years, and had noticed flaws in how we design and build retail and commercial spaces.
If you look at energy consumption as a whole in the United States, over 30 percent of energy consumed is on behalf of the retail and commercial built environment.”
Given her optimistic take on life, she saw these problems as an opportunity to change the industry. She started with a simple idea: improve the energy consumption of retail spaces, lessen their negative impact by choosing energy saving and environmentally friendly building materials. She began talking with people and quickly realized that the time had come to bring this idea to life.
Her idea began to expand, as she realized that there were challenges throughout the life cycle of retail spaces. It wasn’t just in how they were built, but in what happened after they were built. In her view, it is essential to embrace each community and one way of doing this is to start the conversation by asking,
‘Hey, what do you all need in your neighborhood? What are the things you need that will help to support, enhance, and create a more sustainable lifestyle?’ So what we’re trying to create is an interesting mix of folks that all rotate around the hub of sustainability.”
Asking these questions at the very beginning stages of planning, ensure that the community is not merely involved with the space, but they have an avenue to become invested in the process. The GreenVille Project is about combining forces – individuals, community organizations, local governments – and tackling some of the big issues of our day. Jae’s enthusiasm and love of the work is apparent throughout the process.
B&K: What will a GreenVille look like?
JL: Ideally, this is something that is on the neighborhood scale. We’re not trying to be a large regional model. We really are conquering this thing a neighborhood at a time. So within the context of about 65,000 square feet, on about three to four acres, we are looking at having a hybrid organic grocery anchor. So the grocery store would be your main anchor tenant, and around that are all the types of goods and services that you would want to have within walking distance from your house.
We are working with a company called the Micro Green Gym, so instead of a Gold’s Gym or a 24 Hour Fitness, we would partner with a sustainable gym where they have created cardio equipment that uses less energy to run the machines and exercise on the equipment actually feeds that energy to the building.
The fun part of my job is [that] we have the intense privilege of coming across tons of amazing people who are doing incredible work that are in their own little corners of the planet. Our goal is to pull them together – what makes sense in the regional context – and give them one kick ass platform to work out of. By pulling everyone together in a unified environment, it strengthens everybody. It [brings] these little entities with smart ideas, …[struggling] out there on their own, …together under the GreenVille umbrella to strengthen the whole process.“
B&K: What will the experience be for the consumer?
JL: On the consumer side, we offer something that they actually want and need. The way we do that is to actually sit down with them and find out. (Editor’s note: GreenVille has meetings with neighborhood organizations based in the area they are planning to build.) If you ask the question, it’s amazing the amount of information you can get. People know what they want in their backyard. They know the kind of things they do and don’t need. Some neighborhoods [might need] access to health services and child care. There are other neighborhoods that want better and more interesting food options. It depends on where you go and what you’re looking at. Everybody is pretty clear about what they wish they had in their little corner. So we’re trying to put a tremendous amount of forethought into figuring out what that looks like [for the consumer].
So there are three major pillars of GreenVille: there’s (1) the built environment, (2) our unique relationship with the tenants, and (3) the community we are a part of.”
By addressing all three of those in a really holistic way [we are trying] to challenge, change and inform how, what, and where we are buying our goods and services, so that we can inspire people to really think about how they’re using their resources. You have to offer a model to show that it’s possible, and we’re willing be that initial offering in the marketplace that says that there’s a better, more thoughtful, more compassionate way to accomplish this.
BK: What was the path for GreenVille to get to the point where it is now?
JL: I think that it’s been a fascinating path. My background… I come out of a very strong, design/build/construction background. I accidently ended up doing early green building work before we even had any clever names to call it. We were trying to figure out better, more interesting, and more responsible ways of moving our clients in a process of construction. For me, I was an accidental player. I never really set out to be a sustainable builder. It was what made ultimate sense in how to conduct business.
Alongside that, I have always been pretty passionate about my politics, about committing to the communities I lived in, and wanting to be an active participant in shaping those communities. Along the way, I was fortunate enough to create some wonderful friendships and partnerships in my business life. It really was as innocent as a small group of friends, literally three of us, trying to figure out how we can combine our forces to do something in the world that actually felt meaningful. There was a little bit of talk about what sort of legacy are we to leave, and what we can do by joining forces to bring our unique skills, talents, and our abilities to do something that was going to have impact.
In some ways, the fact that we ended up on this path of sustainable retail development is bizarre at best. I’m never going to invent some crazy, you know, alternative energy source. I’m never going to probably roam the halls of government as an elected official. There’s a lot things that I can’t do. There are a lot of things that my partners can’t do. But what we did is sat down and stripped away and asked what can we do? What are we good at? What are we passionate about? What is it that we think we can elicit the change around? And this is kind of the basis of how that evolved. But you never know how things are going to manifest.
One of our joys is that as we’ve gone down this path, we realized that we have come up with a formula and a model that is really about the right place and the right time, just that right moment in history, when we are poised at this precipice where I think there is so much potential for change on a broad, broad level. People are really ready for something that is different and better.
If anything, GreenVille isn’t embarking on doing something New. We are actually leading people back to a path where the world made a lot more sense. If you can genuinely support people and encourage them to make choices for themselves, then you’re doing something worthwhile. The partnership that we currently have – and we’re blessed with some really unique combinations – [for example] by having Eva [Longoria Parker] in our camp, we can shine a really bright spot light on a very small nimble endeavor. We make an impact.
So in terms of the path, I think the exciting part is that there has been such an embrace. The people that are important to our progress, I think, are generally, on board with what we’re doing. And that’s nice, because even three or four years ago there was a sense that you were out there on your own chipping away at it.
Now, there is a much broader sense of awareness and community, and a general level of support and encouragement.”
B&K: Tell me about your collaboration with Bishop and Knight.
JL: That was one of those fortunate products of fate. I have had a long friendship with [Ernesto’s] wife, and I happened to be in Los Angeles for a minute. We were sitting around and I threw the idea at them because I was having a meeting about funding and was {in the beginning stages of} working on this… and Ernesto’s eyes lit up, like “Oh my God!” It’s really one of those things that’s a fortunate twist of circumstances.
I think what was really great in having somebody like Ernesto from the very early stages is that there wasn’t that sort of base level of having to convince or educate or pitch why GreenVille was a good idea or that it should exist.”
I think for me personally, being embraced by Ernesto and Jack, and using them as resources assisted me in figuring out how to transition into the leadership role that I’m currently in and helped move me towards feeling empowered in that role… I come from a background [of] working in very nontraditional fields [for women] in a very male dominated world and I’ve been fine with that – just assuming any role I needed to assume – but when you start on a project as big as this you can start to question yourself, you need people who will help you see your way through [and] that help support you in claiming your role. It’s a process. [They] helped me to see that I don’t have to fit in that conventional mold; that I can bring all of my skills and assets; I can package them in any way that I want to and still obtain a tremendous amount of success for myself and for the company. I think that was really great. They were able to provide encouragement and support on lots of levels. That was tremendously helpful.
B&K: What advice do you have for someone or an organization that is interested in going a similar direction that you and GreenVille have gone?
JL: I think that the main thing is that there has to be an absolute passion and conviction. Not every door is going to stay open. Not everybody is going to have an easy path for this. You have to be right with yourself and know that this is the work you are needing to do.
For me, this is about creating a life’s work. My stance is that if you can accomplish it within the course of your life time, then you haven’t set your goals high enough. We talk about climate change, and global warming… the path that we’re moving in as a planet… it’s not work that we can unfold over the next couple decades, or quarter century, or the next 50 years. We have to start making radically different decisions and choices and commitments, yesterday. If I sound like a gal whose hair is on fire, it is! [Laughter] So my advice is to say: be bold, be brave, and be shameless in your passion and approach. We can’t do this work fast enough ~ the work it takes to turn away from the path that we’re on. [In] whatever capacity we are capable… I don’t care if you’re an accountant, or an artist, or a widget maker, whatever it is that you do, figure out now how to do it more responsibly, sustainably, and inspire as many people along the way to join you in that mission, because that’s what it’s going to take.
**Just in: Jae Larsen of the GreenVille Project speak on a Panel with Mr. Al Gore and Mr. Bill Bradbury on Thursday November 19th in Portland Oregon! Go to www.bradbury2010.com for more information.